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10 April 2015 Archives

NFL Players - participation by NCAA Power 5 Conferences

Recently nationalfootballpost.com delivered an analysis on the Power Five Conferences and the NFL Draft. It was a nicely crafted article attempting to "examine the degree of the impact the Power Five colleges have on the NFL draft. (It included) both a comparison of the Power Five with the rest of college football and then a comparison of the conferences within the Power Five."

In that follow up article, they evaluated "the draft performance of colleges for players selected between 2005 and 2014." In it they
- avoid using simply number of draft choices plus number of career starts at a school to rank it and instead declare
- "A college that produces all seventh round choices could rank higher than a team with more or higher selections depending on the degree by which performance was better or worse than expected." IN addition they limit the sample to:
- "Only colleges with at least 10 players drafted in the study period ... There are 76 colleges that meet the criteria ..."

I thought it would be interesting to do a "deep dive" to compare active players in the NFL plus NFL hall of Fame players by conference and by school within each conference to try and get a feel for how successful each conference/school has been over that same time period (HOF gives us ALL players from each school - not limited by the arbitrary 10 year rule). I used the nationalfootballpost.com data and ESPN for active players. The numbers below are the result.

Some interesting conclusions as a result:
- some can be explained by size of conferences; i.e. Big 12 has 10..Pac 12 only had 12 for short period of time within the sample period
- Big 12 is last in every position; Pac 12 first only in Tight Ends
- for Active NFL Players, the SEC is first across the board regardless of conference and the Big 12 is last
- when looking at "by position", the Pac-12 is first only at the TE position.I found it surprising the ACC was first at QB.
- there is no discernable differnce in how players are spread out among NFL conferences or divisions within conferences

And within the Pac-12

- Oregon is second in the conference behind USC with 6 HOF'ers (and an excellent chance to get to 7 when Haloti Ngata is elegible and an OUTSIDE for 8 with Max Unger...)
- we know about all the Oregon players on the Eagles' roster; interesting to see the team with the most USC playerson the roster is Seattle!

...and for the "Stat Geeks, see below and draw your own conclusions:

Draft Performance Rank Active Players
ACC HOF Active Last 10 Starts ACC OL QB RB WR TE DL LB DB ST Tot
Pittsburgh   8 14 23 383 Pittsburgh   1 1 2 3 0 3 1 2 1 14
Syracuse   7 11 20 287 Syracuse   2 1 0 0   3 2 3 0 11
Miami (FL)   6 44 44 1418 Miami (FL)   8 1 3 7 6 7 5 5 2 44
Florida State  4 39 54 1209 Florida State  4 2 4 3   5 10 8 3 39
Duke  3 8 na na Duke  0 2 1 0 1 1 1 2 0 8
Virginia   3 20 27 835 Virginia   8 0 0 1 2 3 3 3 0 20
Boston College  2 19 16 603 Boston College  5 1 1 1 1 2 5 2 1 19
Georgia Tech  2 18 21 618 Georgia Tech  1 0 0 4 0 4 4 5 0 18
North Carolina  2 26 34 642 North Carolina  7 1 2 0 2 5 5 3 1 26
Louisville 1 20 30 669 Louisville 4 1 2 3 1 4 3 2 0 20
Virginia Tech  1 24 39 829 Virginia Tech  5 2 2 3 1 1 1 8 1 24
Wake Forest  1 14 18 124 Wake Forest  2 0 3 2 0 1 3 3 0 14
Clemson  0 30 41 632 Clemson  5 2 2 5 2 4 3 6 1 30
North Carolina St 0 21 28 602 North Carolina St 2 2 0 3   4 4 5 1 21
  40 308 395 8851   54 16 22 35 16 47 50 57 11 308
Big Ten HOF Active Last 10 Starts Big Ten OL QB RB WR TE DL LB DB ST Tot
Ohio State   9 35 51 1181 Ohio State   10 1 2 4 1 3 5 9 0 35
Michigan   8 24 33 936 Michigan   6 2 2 3 0 3 5 3 0 24
Penn State   6 26 36 705 Penn State   5 1 0 2 3 6 8 0 1 26
Minnesota   6 5 11 228 Minnesota   0 0 0 1 1 1 0 2 0 5
llinois   6 21 22 558 llinois   3 0 0 3 2 5 3 3 2 21
Nebraska   5 25 35 822 Nebraska   7 0 2 1 1 2 4 6 2 25
Purdue  4 14 20 745 Purdue  3 2 1 1 0 5 1 1 0 14
Wisconsin 3 32 40 892 Wisconsin 7 1 3 3 3 5 5 4 1 32
Iowa   3 31 39 975 Iowa   9 1 1 0 5 5 6 4 0 31
Northwestern   2 6 11 320 Northwestern   1 0 0 2 0 1 0 2 0 6
Michigan State  2 23 25 392 Michigan St  2 3 2 3 3 5 1 4   23
Maryland  2 15 16 630 Maryland  2 1 0 3 1 2 2 3 1 15
Indiana   1 10 12 166 Indiana   3 0 1 2 1 1 0 1 0 9
Rutgers 0 21 21 531 Rutgers 5 0 0 4 2 1 3 6 0 21
  57 288 372 9081   63 12 14 32 23 45 43 48 7 287
Big 12 HOF Active Last 10 Starts Big 12 OL QB RB WR TE DL LB DB ST Tot
Oklahoma   4 32 57 1306 Oklahoma   7 2 4 4 1 5 3 4 2 32
Texas  4 32 41 1635 Texas  4 1 3 2 0 6 6 8 2 32
Kansas   3 7 10 126 Kansas   1 0 1 0 0 0 1 4 0 7
Oklahoma St 2 19 17 488 Oklahoma St 3 1 2 3 1 3 1 4 1 19
TCU   2 15 24 258 TCU   3 1 1 3 0 2 3 2 0 15
W Virginia 2 16 22 236 W Virginia 2 1 1 2 0 2 4 3 1 16
Baylor  1 14 21 241 Baylor  3 1 1 4 0 1 0 3 1 14
Iowa St 0 10 10 201 Iowa St 2 0 0 1 0 1 3 3 0 10
Kansas St 0 10 14 283 Kansas St 2 0 2 2 0 0 3 1 0 10
Texas Tech   0 9 15 275 Texas Tech   3 0 0 2 1 1 1 1 0 9
  18 164 231 5049   30 7 15 23 3 21 25 33 7 164
Pac 12 HOF Active Last 10 Starts Pac 12 OL QB RB WR TE DL LB DB ST Tot
USC 12 42 67 1994 USC 7 4 2 3 5 7 9 5 0 42
Oregon 6 33 35 760 Oregon 6 1 5 4 3 6 3 6 0 34
UCLA 5 24 24 447 UCLA 6 0 1 2 4 2 3 4 2 24
Arizona St 5 22 25 134 Arizona St 3 1 1 3 1 4 5 4 0 22
Stanford 3 32 34 567 Stanford 5 1 5 3 6 4 3 5 0 32
Washington 3 14 14 422 Washington 2 0 3 2 1 1 1 3 1 14
Washington St 2 10 11 103 Washington St 1 1 1 2   1 1 2 1 10
California 1 32 39 1142 California 5 1 5 4 2 5 6 2 2 32
Utah 1 26 26 740 Utah 4 1 1 2 2 7 4 5   26
Oregon St 0 16 25 340 Oregon St 3 1 0 2   2 2 5 1 16
Arizona 0 12 20 20 Arizona 0 1 1 1 1 1 2 4 1 12
Colorado 0 11 17 269 Colorado 4 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 1 11
  38 274 337 6938   46 12 25 29 26 41 40 47 9 275
SEC HOF Active Last 10 Starts SEC OL QB RB WR TE DL LB DB ST Tot
Alabama  7 43 53 1250 Alabama  10 1 3 2 1 9 7 9 1 43
LSU   3 41 63 1527 LSU   2 1 3 9 0 11 4 9 2 41
Arkansas   2 19 29 364 Arkansas   4 1 4 3 1 3 1 1 1 19
Florida   2 37 46 1106 Florida   6 0 2 6 2 7 5 8 1 37
Georgia   2 39 53 1130 Georgia   4 2 0 4 3 12 6 6 2 39
Kentucky   2 13 14 257 Kentucky   1 0 1 3 1 2 3 1 1 13
Ole Miss   2 17 17 720 Ole Miss   6 1 2 2 0 3 0 3 0 17
Missouri   2 22 25 429 Missouri   2 2 1 3 2 6 4 2 0 22
Tennessee   2 32 33 734 Tennessee   9 3 3 2 3 5 3 1 3 32
Auburn  1 27 34 1105 Auburn  6 1 2 1 0 4 7 4 2 27
Texas A&M   1 27 25 458 Texas A&M   6 2 4 3 1 3 3 3 2 27
Mississippi St 0 16 17 409 Mississippi St 2 0 2 2 0 6 4 0 0 16
South Carolina   0 30 33 564 South Carolina   3 1 1 3 2 6 4 8 2 30
Vanderbilt   0 14 18 314 Vanderbilt   3 1 1 3 1 0 0 4 1 14
  26 377 460 10367   64 16 29 46 17 77 51 59 18 377

By Position
  OL   QB   RB   WR   TE   DL   LB   DB   ST
SEC 64 ACC 16 SEC 29 SEC 46 Pac 12 26 SEC 77 SEC 51 SEC 59 SEC 18
Big 10 63 SEC 16 Pac 12 25 ACC 35 Big 10 23 ACC 47 ACC 50 ACC 57 ACC 11
ACC 54 Big 10 12 ACC 22 Big 10 32 SEC 17 Big 10 45 Big 10 43 Big 10 48 Pac 12 9
Pac 12 46 Pac 12 12 Big 12 15 Pac 12 29 ACC 16 Pac 12 41 Pac 12 40 Pac 12 47 Big 10 7
Big 12 30 Big 12 7 Big 10 14 Big 12 23 Big 12 3 Big 12 21 Big 12 25 Big 12 33 Big 12 7

Active NFL Players by Conference

  NFC
               
  East   West   North   South
SEC 43 SEC 56 SEC 38 SEC 46
Pac 12 42 ACC 46 Pac 12 35 Big 10 39
ACC 36 Pac 12 38 ACC 33 ACC 34
Big 10 32 Big 10 33 Big 10 28 Pac 12 33
Big 12 31 Big 12 18 Big 12 22 Big 12 20

  AFC
                 
    East   West   North   South
SEC Big 10 47 SEC 45 SEC 48 SEC 59
Pac 12 ACC 46 ACC 31 ACC 39 Big 10 43
ACC SEC 42 Big 10 30 Big 10 35 ACC 43
Big 10 Pac 12 38 Pac 12 30 Pac 12 30 Pac 12 29
Big 12 Big 12 18 Big 12 19 Big 12 21 Big 12 15

Active Players in NFL - by school within conference

  NFC
  East West North South
ACC Dal NYG Phily Wash Ariz SF Sea St L Chi Det GB Minn Atl Caro NO Tampa
Pittsburgh   1       1 1 1 1       1        
Syracuse     4   1   1             1      
Miami (FL)     1     1 1 2 2 3   2 1 4 2 1 1
Florida State  2 1   1   4   1 1     1 2 2 2  
Duke              1           1      
Virginia     2   1   2   3                
Boston College  1 2     1 1 2 1 1       1 1 1 1
Georgia Tech      1             1 1 1   2    
North Carolina          2     3 2 1 1 1   2   1
Louisville 1   1       1   3 1   1        
Virginia Tech  2 2 1 2 2   1   2 1 1 1     3  
Wake Forest  1 1   1   1   1                
Clemson      1 1 3 1     2       1     1
North Carolina St   2 1 1 1 1 2   1 1   1 1 1   2
TOTAL 8 15 5 8 11 13 10 12 15 5 5 8 11 10 7 6
Big Ten Dal NYG Phily Wash Ariz SF Sea St L Chi Det GB Minn Atl Caro NO Tampa
Ohio State     2 1     2   4     1   1 4 1  
Michigan     1 2   2   1                 1
Penn State   2       2 1 2   1   1 2 1      
Minnesota                   1     1 1      
llinois   1 1 1           1       1   2 1
Nebraska     2   3         1 1         1 1
Purdue      1 1     1       2   1 1 1 1
Wisconsin 2 1 2   1 2 3 1 1 1 1   3 1 1  
Iowa   2 1 2           1 1 3 2 4 1   1
Northwestern                   2     1 1   1  
Michigan St          2 2                 1 1
Maryland      1     2           1 1   1  
Indiana         1 1     1         1      
Rutgers     1 1   1   2 2           1 1
TOTAL 7 8 11 6 8 10 7 8 10 3 8 7 15 7 10 7
Big 12 Dal NYG Phily Wash Ariz SF Sea St L Chi Det GB Minn Atl Caro NO Tampa
Oklahoma   1   3 3 1 1 1   1 2   2   1 1 1
Texas  3 2 1 3 2 1 1   2     2   2 1 1
Kansas                               1 1
Oklahoma St 5         1 2   1 1 1         1
TCU     1 1   1   1     1     1 1 1  
W Virginia   1 1 1     1 2 1   2         2
Baylor  1     1 1           1 1 1      
Iowa St             1         1   1   1
Kansas St   1 1             1 1       2  
Texas Tech   1             1   1            
TOTAL 11 5 7 8 5 3 7 3 5 6 5 6 2 5 6 7
Pac 12 Dal NYG Phily Wash Ariz SF Sea St L Chi Det GB Minn Atl Caro NO Tampa
USC 1 2 3 1 2 4 5 2     2 3 1 3   1
Oregon 1 3 8           2 1   2 2 3 2  
UCLA       2     2 2   1 1 3   1   1
Arizona St 2   1 2 1       1   2         1
Stanford 1   2 1 2 3 2     4   1 1   1 1
Washington     1   1   2           1   1 2
Washington St 1   1   2       1              
California 1   1 2 1 2 2     1 2       1 1
Utah 1                     1 1 1    
Oregon St     1 2       1       1   2 3  
Arizona   1           1 1 2     1      
Colorado             1       3       1  
TOTAL 8 6 18 10 9 9 14 6 5 9 10 11 7 10 9 7
SEC Dal NYG Phily Wash Ariz SF Sea St L Chi Det GB Minn Atl Caro NO Tampa
Alabama  1   2   3 1 2 3   2 3   1 2 2  
LSU   2 2 2 2 3 3 1 1 2       1 1   1
Arkansas   1   1 2     1     1 1 1 1   1  
Florida   1   3 2       1 1     2     1 3
Georgia       1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1   1   3 4 1
Kentucky           1 1 1     1 2   1      
Ole Miss   1 3     2             1   1 1  
Missouri   1 1     1 3 1 2       1 1 2   1
Tennessee   1 1         1       1 2 2 1 2 1
Auburn    1 1   1 1   6 1 1     1 1    
Texas A&M     1       1 4   1 1     1 1 1 2
Mississippi St 1   1       1   1 1 1     1   1
South Carolina   2     2 1 1 1 2 1 1   1 2      
Vanderbilt   1   2         1 1   2          
TOTAL 12 9 13 9 13 12 14 17 10 9 10 9 11 13 12 10

  AFC
  East West North South
ACC Buff Mia NE NYJ Den KC Oak S Diego Balt Cinc Clev Pit Hou Ind Jax Tenn
Pittsburgh   1   1 1       1     1   1 1   1
Syracuse       1                 1   1   1
Miami (FL)   3 4       3 1 1   1 1 1 1 3 4  
Florida State  3   1 1 1   4 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 1
Duke  1       2         1 1       1  
Virginia     1 1       1 2 2     1   1 3  
Boston College        2       1   1       2    
Georgia Tech  2 1   1 2     1 1 1 1         2
North Carolina        1 4       1   2 2 1     2
Louisville 3     3         1   1 1     1 2
Virginia Tech  1       1     1     2   1      
Wake Forest        2 1   1   2 1   1 1      
Clemson  3   1 3       1   1   3 3 1 2 2
North Carolina St 3     1       1           1    
TOTAL 20 6 5 15 11 3 7 10 9 7 11 12 9 11 12 11
Big Ten Buff Mia NE NYJ Den KC Oak S Diego Balt Cinc Clev Pit Hou Ind Jax Tenn
Ohio State     1 2 1 1 1     1 1 2 5 2 2    
Michigan   1   4 1 1 2 1   1 1     1   2 2
Penn State     1     1 1 1 2 1 1         4 2
Minnesota   1     1                        
llinois       4 1   2   1         1 3   1
Nebraska   1 1 2 2   1 2 1 2 1     2     1
Purdue  1   2       1 1                
Wisconsin 1   1   2   1   1 1 1 1 2   1  
Iowa       3           2   1   4   1 2
Northwestern   1                              
Michigan St    2   2 1 1       4   1 3 1   2
Maryland      2 1     1 1     1 1 1 1    
Indiana   1     1 1           1       1  
Rutgers     5     1 1   1 3           1
TOTAL 7 5 25 10 7 9 8 6 9 12 6 8 16 7 9 11
Big 12 Buff Mia NE NYJ Den KC Oak S Diego Balt Cinc Clev Pit Hou Ind Jax Tenn
Oklahoma     2     1 3 2   1   1 2     1 1
Texas  2     1   2   1 1 1         1 2
Kansas           3     1   1            
Oklahoma St       1     1       2       1 2
TCU   1   2 1       1   1 1          
W Virginia       1           2   1   1    
Baylor  1           1     1 2   1     2
Iowa St 1 1         1   1         1 1  
Kansas St 1               1 1     1      
Texas Tech       1 2 2         1            
TOTAL 6 3 3 6 6 5 5 3 4 8 6 3 2 2 4 7
Pac 12 Buff Mia NE NYJ Den KC Oak S Diego Balt Cinc Clev Pit Hou Ind Jax Tenn
USC 4 1               1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Oregon   3 2   1 1   2         1      
UCLA     1 1       2 1   1 1 2 1 1  
Arizona St   1   1 2 2   1 2 1 1     1    
Stanford   1 2 1 1       1 1 3 1     1 1
Washington             2 2               2
Washington St 1   1 1   1                   1
California   2 1   1   1 1 1 1 2   2   4 2
Utah 1 6 1 2   2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1   1  
Oregon St             1       1 1   1 1 1
Arizona   1 1 1           1   2        
Colorado     1   1   1 1 1         1    
TOTAL 6 15 10 7 6 6 7 11 7 6 10 7 7 5 9 8
SEC Buff Mia NE NYJ Den KC Oak S Diego Balt Cinc Clev Pit Hou Ind Jax Tenn
Alabama  2   1 2     1 2 3 5     2 1 1 1
LSU   2 2 1   1 1       4 2 1 1 2 1 2
Arkansas   1   1     1   1 1 1     1   1 1
Florida   1 4 1 1 3 2     2 2 1 2 1 2 1  
Georgia   3 2       3     2 5   1 2   2 1
Kentucky           1   1 1           1   2
Ole Miss       1   1       1       1 1 1 2
Missouri     1   1   2                 2 2
Tennessee     2 1 1 3 4 3   1     2 1   1 1
Auburn      1     2 2 2   2 1   1   1 1
Texas A&M     1     1 1     1 1 1 1 5   1 1
Mississippi St 1   2     1 2             1   1
South Carolina   1     1 1     1   1 2 1 3 1 1 3
Vanderbilt   2   1 1   1         1   1      
TOTAL 13 12 10 7 11 18 9 7 11 21 8 8 19 9 13 18